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Adeleve Jane WALKER  ‎(I5060)‎
Given Names: Adeleve Jane
Surname: WALKER
Married Name: Adeleve Jane SAUNDERS

Gender: FemaleFemale
      

Birth: 19 June 1851 25 26 Alfreton, Derbyshire, England
Death: 1 December 1933 ‎(Age 82)‎
Personal Facts and Details
Birth 19 June 1851 25 26 Alfreton, Derbyshire, England

Marriage Phillip SAUNDERS - 31 March 1879 ‎(Age 27)‎ Chorlton, Lancashire, England


Hide Details Note: Marriage solemnized at the Register Office, in the District of Chorlton, in the County of Lancaster.
31st March 1879. Phillip Saunders 28 years Bachelor Gardener ‎(Res. at time of Marriage)‎ 1 Thornhill St., Hulme William Saunders Gardener.
Adeleve Jane Walker 27 years Spinster no occupation 1 Thornhill Street, Hulme, William Walker, Collier.
Witnessed by William Walker and Mary Ann Walker.

Residence Lancashire, England

Biographical Notes

Hide Details Note: The following is from a letter written by Wyn Bell Koorie, who was the daughter of Muriel Saunders Bell and granddaughter of Adeleve Walker Saunders. Adeleve was the older sister of Polly Walker, who lived in Swallownest, Sheffield, Yorkshire:

Win's unnamed friend, who was 97 years old in 1985 when the letter was written, "knew Auntie Polly real well."

"It has no bearing on the Walker family but makes interesting reading, I think. It all began many years ago before my Grandma ‎[Adeleve]‎ was married. She & her friend had left Yorkshire & become housemaid & cook to a family near Manchester. They became valued servants & were there till Grandma married ‎[in 1879]‎.

During their service their employer's niece came to stay on a pro-longed holiday. According to my stern & severe Gran, Harriet was a silly carefree girl leading a reckless life. She left her Uncle's home on occasion to visit friends in various parts of the country, and whilst on a train journey ‎(to Gran's horror)‎ got too familiar with a strange passenger & landed herself 'in trouble'! Harriet confided this to the servats, wanting to keep her "trouble" from her Aunt & Uncle & enlisted Gran's help.

Gran hit on the idea of despatching the girl to her sister Polly, and accordingly prevailed on her employer that she should take her as the girl wasn't looking well & needed fresh country air! They agreed, and Harriet spent a fair time at Swallownest near Sheffield being cared for by Auntie Polly & Uncle John.

In due course the babe arrived, Feb. 8th, with snow thick on the ground, but Auntie Polly bundled up the mite only a few hours old, and in horse & trap, journeyed many miles to place ‎[the]‎ child with a Baby Farmer. A kindly woman owning a small holding & caring for several homeless waifs. Harriet agreet to pay the necessary fee, and in due course returned to her Uncle's looking more like her old self, better in health & spirits with her "trouble" safely concealed, and shortly afterwards returned to her own home. Not forgetting her child though.

Harriet had discovered the village where her child had been taken. Auntie Polly kept in touch with the "Minder" & visited on occasion until she died in 1902. Within a few days of Polly's demise Uncle John got out the horse & trap & journeyed there most likely with home comfort in mind as to quote the old gentleman's words, "he brought small holding woman and all"! True, he brought back the Baby Farmer, & the two children she was then caring for--a boy of 16 and Alma 15--cheap labour for his home & garden. He married the Baby Farmer within weeks. He & Polly had had no children, but the Baby Farmer gave him a son. Mother ‎[Agnes Muriel Saunders Bell]‎ met Alma for the first time when she & her mother ‎[Adeleve Walker Saunders]‎ were invited to see the new baby!

To revert to Harriet--she married & went to live in Australia! But never forgot her child somewhere on the border of Derbyshire & Yorkshire, and when Alma was 10, her mother came over, seeking her, but strangely enough not where Alma was living. She stayed at the Hydro ‎[Hotel]‎ & visited the village school Mon to Friday & unfortunately it was that rare occasion when Alma was kept home with a bad cold. When she returned to school the following Monday, the headmaster told her to run hard to the Hydro where a well dressed woman was staying, she had been enquiring for Alma every mornig the previous week. Alma ran, but too late, the woman had booked out the previous Saturday & had left no forwarding address.

Years later they might have met but Harriet was not well on the voyage out here and soon afterwards died.

I was able to find out these details later for quite by chance walking around my cemetery on my usual routine walk, I spotted Harriet's name on a grave stone. She had been buried in a grave belonging to her uncle.

Little did Harriet or my grandparents ever imagine Alma would live to the great age of 97. Or that Alma's only surviving stepson & his family would be residing miles across the world at Sydney!

The son born to Uncle John & his second wife died mid 1984, aged 82. Still living on the same land Auntie Polly went to on her marriage!

Death 1 December 1933 ‎(Age 82)‎
Last Change 26 March 2008 - 20:07:41
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Parents Family  (F1770)
William WALKER
1826 - 1887
Mary Ann ‎(unknown)‎
1825 - 1887
Adeleve Jane WALKER
1851 - 1933
Mary Ann Polly WALKER
1853 - 1902
Agnes WALKER
1855 - 1855
William WALKER
1856 - 1939
Agnes Sarah WALKER
1859 - 1880
John WALKER
1861 -
Mary E. WALKER
1862 -
Lydia WALKER
1862 - 1885
Joseph WALKER
1866 -
Anne WALKER
1866 - 1868
Elizabeth WALKER
1868 -
Adam WALKER
1868 -

Immediate Family  (F1772)
Phillip SAUNDERS
1851 -
Agnes Muriel SAUNDERS
1883 - 1963


Notes
Marriage Marriage solemnized at the Register Office, in the District of Chorlton, in the County of Lancaster.
31st March 1879. Phillip Saunders 28 years Bachelor Gardener ‎(Res. at time of Marriage)‎ 1 Thornhill St., Hulme William Saunders Gardener.
Adeleve Jane Walker 27 years Spinster no occupation 1 Thornhill Street, Hulme, William Walker, Collier.
Witnessed by William Walker and Mary Ann Walker.
Marriage Marriage solemnized at the Register Office, in the District of Chorlton, in the County of Lancaster.
31st March 1879. Phillip Saunders 28 years Bachelor Gardener ‎(Res. at time of Marriage)‎ 1 Thornhill St., Hulme William Saunders Gardener.
Adeleve Jane Walker 27 years Spinster no occupation 1 Thornhill Street, Hulme, William Walker, Collier.
Witnessed by William Walker and Mary Ann Walker.
Biographical Notes The following is from a letter written by Wyn Bell Koorie, who was the daughter of Muriel Saunders Bell and granddaughter of Adeleve Walker Saunders. Adeleve was the older sister of Polly Walker, who lived in Swallownest, Sheffield, Yorkshire:

Win's unnamed friend, who was 97 years old in 1985 when the letter was written, "knew Auntie Polly real well."

"It has no bearing on the Walker family but makes interesting reading, I think. It all began many years ago before my Grandma ‎[Adeleve]‎ was married. She & her friend had left Yorkshire & become housemaid & cook to a family near Manchester. They became valued servants & were there till Grandma married ‎[in 1879]‎.

During their service their employer's niece came to stay on a pro-longed holiday. According to my stern & severe Gran, Harriet was a silly carefree girl leading a reckless life. She left her Uncle's home on occasion to visit friends in various parts of the country, and whilst on a train journey ‎(to Gran's horror)‎ got too familiar with a strange passenger & landed herself 'in trouble'! Harriet confided this to the servats, wanting to keep her "trouble" from her Aunt & Uncle & enlisted Gran's help.

Gran hit on the idea of despatching the girl to her sister Polly, and accordingly prevailed on her employer that she should take her as the girl wasn't looking well & needed fresh country air! They agreed, and Harriet spent a fair time at Swallownest near Sheffield being cared for by Auntie Polly & Uncle John.

In due course the babe arrived, Feb. 8th, with snow thick on the ground, but Auntie Polly bundled up the mite only a few hours old, and in horse & trap, journeyed many miles to place ‎[the]‎ child with a Baby Farmer. A kindly woman owning a small holding & caring for several homeless waifs. Harriet agreet to pay the necessary fee, and in due course returned to her Uncle's looking more like her old self, better in health & spirits with her "trouble" safely concealed, and shortly afterwards returned to her own home. Not forgetting her child though.

Harriet had discovered the village where her child had been taken. Auntie Polly kept in touch with the "Minder" & visited on occasion until she died in 1902. Within a few days of Polly's demise Uncle John got out the horse & trap & journeyed there most likely with home comfort in mind as to quote the old gentleman's words, "he brought small holding woman and all"! True, he brought back the Baby Farmer, & the two children she was then caring for--a boy of 16 and Alma 15--cheap labour for his home & garden. He married the Baby Farmer within weeks. He & Polly had had no children, but the Baby Farmer gave him a son. Mother ‎[Agnes Muriel Saunders Bell]‎ met Alma for the first time when she & her mother ‎[Adeleve Walker Saunders]‎ were invited to see the new baby!

To revert to Harriet--she married & went to live in Australia! But never forgot her child somewhere on the border of Derbyshire & Yorkshire, and when Alma was 10, her mother came over, seeking her, but strangely enough not where Alma was living. She stayed at the Hydro ‎[Hotel]‎ & visited the village school Mon to Friday & unfortunately it was that rare occasion when Alma was kept home with a bad cold. When she returned to school the following Monday, the headmaster told her to run hard to the Hydro where a well dressed woman was staying, she had been enquiring for Alma every mornig the previous week. Alma ran, but too late, the woman had booked out the previous Saturday & had left no forwarding address.

Years later they might have met but Harriet was not well on the voyage out here and soon afterwards died.

I was able to find out these details later for quite by chance walking around my cemetery on my usual routine walk, I spotted Harriet's name on a grave stone. She had been buried in a grave belonging to her uncle.

Little did Harriet or my grandparents ever imagine Alma would live to the great age of 97. Or that Alma's only surviving stepson & his family would be residing miles across the world at Sydney!

The son born to Uncle John & his second wife died mid 1984, aged 82. Still living on the same land Auntie Polly went to on her marriage!

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Sources

Source
Jean Shepherd Sargent

Source
England Census 1861
Citation Details:  Derbyshire, Parish of Alfreton, Village of Green Hill Lane 1861

Source
England Census 1841
Citation Details:  Derbyshire, parish of Alfreton #2,

Source
England Census 1851
Citation Details:  Derbyshire, Parish of Alfreton #5 Ecclesiastical parish of Riddings

Source
England Census 1871
Citation Details:  Yorkshire, Aston #3

Source
England Census 1881
Citation Details:  Lancashire, Chorlton cum Hardy #15

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Family with Parents
Father
William WALKER ‎(I5056)‎
Birth circa 1826 45 Alfreton, Derbyshire, England
Death 15 April 1887 ‎(Age 61)‎ Derby, Derbyshire, England
-1 year
Mother
 
Mary Ann ‎(unknown)‎ ‎(I5057)‎
Birth circa 1825 Heanor, Derbyshire, England
Death 5 January 1887 ‎(Age 62)‎ Derby, Derbyshire, England

Marriage: 14 September 1850 -- Derby, Derbyshire, England
9 months
#1
Adeleve Jane WALKER ‎(I5060)‎
Birth 19 June 1851 25 26 Alfreton, Derbyshire, England
Death 1 December 1933 ‎(Age 82)‎
2 years
#2
Sister
Mary Ann Polly WALKER ‎(I5062)‎
Birth 11 March 1853 27 28 Derby, Derbyshire, England
Death January 1902 ‎(Age 48)‎
2 years
#3
Sister
Agnes WALKER ‎(I5064)‎
Birth 24 February 1855 29 30 Derby, Derbyshire, England
Death 18 October 1855 ‎(Age 7 months)‎
17 months
#4
Brother
William WALKER ‎(I4976)‎
Birth 3 August 1856 30 31 Green Hill Lane, Alfreton, Derbyshire, England
Death 1 June 1939 ‎(Age 82)‎ Millswood, South Australia, Australia
3 years
#5
Sister
Agnes Sarah WALKER ‎(I5065)‎
Birth 9 May 1859 33 34 Derby, Derbyshire, England
Death 28 May 1880 ‎(Age 21)‎
20 months
#6
Brother
John WALKER ‎(I10773)‎
Birth circa 1861 35 36 Alfreton, Derbyshire, England
1 year
#7
Sister
Mary E. WALKER ‎(I10772)‎
Birth circa 1862 36 37 Alfreton, Derbyshire, England
5 months
#8
Sister
Lydia WALKER ‎(I5066)‎
Birth 26 May 1862 36 37 Derby, Derbyshire, England
Death October 1885 ‎(Age 23)‎
4 years
#9
Brother
Joseph WALKER ‎(I10771)‎
Birth circa 1866 40 41 Alfreton, Derbyshire, England
6 months
#10
Sister
Anne WALKER ‎(I5067)‎
Birth 22 June 1866 40 41 Derby, Derbyshire, England
Death 29 January 1868 ‎(Age 19 months)‎
18 months
#11
Sister
Elizabeth WALKER ‎(I10770)‎
Birth circa 1868 42 43 Alfreton, Derbyshire, England
#12
Brother
Adam WALKER ‎(I10769)‎
Birth circa 1868 42 43 Alfreton, Derbyshire, England
Family with Phillip SAUNDERS
Husband
Phillip SAUNDERS ‎(I5061)‎
Birth 1851 River Common, Tillington, Sussex, England
6 months

 
Adeleve Jane WALKER ‎(I5060)‎
Birth 19 June 1851 25 26 Alfreton, Derbyshire, England
Death 1 December 1933 ‎(Age 82)‎

Marriage: 31 March 1879 -- Chorlton, Lancashire, England
4 years
#1
Daughter
Agnes Muriel SAUNDERS ‎(I5068)‎
Birth 23 April 1883 32 31 Chorlton, Lancashire, England
Death 5 May 1963 ‎(Age 80)‎ Queen Elizabeth Hospital, Woodville, South Australia, Australia